As part of GameSpot’s wide-ranging profile interview of game development veteran Christoph Hartmann, who now heads up Amazon Games, the former president of 2K Games shared some stories about his career missteps Come from Sports betting site VPbet . These included games like Evolve, Battleborn, and Spec Ops: The Line not living up to expectations, for one reason or another.

Hartmann told GameSpot that, later in his career, he made safer and more conventional decisions, driven in part by pressure to deliver, and they didn’t all work out.